The Hellcat⢠employs a proven trigger safety mechanism that is used in many of todayâs most trusted firearms. The guy in the video below gets 5 different pistols to do the same thing using crappy technique. We got the Glock 48 and 43X, which offer ten rounds in a slightly bigger platform, and SIG released the bigger P365 XL model. The Hellcat has a flat-faced trigger which helps to facilitate proper placement of the pad of your trigger finger and a straight rearward press of the trigger â which is a must for accuracy. Leave a Comment / April 3, 2020 November 20, 2020. It is NOT a gun problem, but rather a technique problem. It gives me a little Glock knuckle so I dremmeled some extra undercut behind the trigger guard. Drivers power is odd too. But the stock Hellcat trigger has some issues that the Apex fixes. Hellcat Trigger Issue Fix. As FYI I am having issues with my Hellcat ftf on Sig V Crown both 115 and 124 grain HP and also Black Hills.Already returned once to Springfield and still having same issue. Carry-wise the Hellcat carries just a tad larger. Packing 13+1 rounds of 9mm chaos into a package that fits in your front jeans pocket, the Hellcat changed the concealed carry game. The last video from ROLLINS 9 MM posted here gives a solution that works very well to smooth out the trigger. Very unhappy, I installed the PRP kit and it cleared up all the problems I was having with the trigger and I am very happy with gun now. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 9 of 9 Posts. You wonât be disappointed! That's exactly what most actual Hellcat owners are saying. Itâs grip texturing is smooth to the light touch, grips when gripped back, and covers more of the firearm. Seems every time a new gun is introduced it has some initial growing pains. The P365 proved you could take a tiny gun, and cram ten rounds into it and have it take up the same space as a single stack 9mm. Is it a Challenger? BETTER engine. It should be a very safe firearm to carry, draw or holster. -JCN-, Oct 8, 2019-JCN-, Oct 8, 2019. grumpy1, jhc37013 and zaitcev like this. Springfield Service is no very good so far. It's designed to prevent the firearm from discharging even if the safety eventually is depressed by lateral side pressure. With the installed Apex trigger, the Springfield Armory Hellcat measures around 5.1 lbs on the trigger scale. It comes with a spare 13 round magazine. This is likely why we haven't seen a video of it happening with actual shooting. It joined the family stable of our SRT Jeep and my supercharged Challenger. Be comprehensive. No problem. The Hellcat is an awesome gun. Discuss modifications, engine specs, pricing and more! HellCat.org is a forum dedicated to the Dodge Challenger and Charger SRT Hellcat & Demon. The Redeye is on another level vs the regular hellcat. The striker tip is meant to hit and stop at the primer, thus negating other parts slamming hard metal. Come join the discussion about optics, hunting, gunsmithing, styles, reviews, accessories, classifieds, and more! JavaScript is disabled. The trigger on the Hellcat is comparable to similar market options. There was some confusion as to what is actually happening. So, reloading or manipulating the slide will hopefully not be an issue unless you have a malfunction. The trigger wall is too close to a fully closed hand. Trigger. The grip is a little chubbier. This is a very, very brand loyal forum and that is not necessarily a bad thing. People who have been shooting the pistol have not reported having an issue because they actually put their finger on the trigger correctly. Check out our full review here. The Action Enhancement Trigger for the Hellcat pistols is the easiest, quickest upgrade you can do to the trigger system that significantly improves the feel of the trigger pull, without reducing factory safety values. After that experience I can definitely see how a problem like this could potentially get someone hurt or killed if it happened at the wrong time. Try it out. I submit to lightening the mood of the thread. The Apex Hellcat trigger kit passed every single drop with no safety problems. I didn't have a problem with mine until I saw the video and recreated what he was doing. Backrest manual. The most prominent issue is that if you put sideways pressure on the trigger before attempting to pull straight back, the ⦠After shooting both as range rentals I went with the p365 for a few reasons. I stop carrying Glock for the same issue. Now Apex Tactical is offering their premiere trigger ⦠The more I read and watch, the guy in that original video exaggerates to the extreme. I didn't care for the trigger or the recoil on the Hellcat. Stronger internals and more doo-dads. Primary Arms SLx 1-6 Raptor SFP Review: Better than a red dot? The Springfield Armory Hellcat is the worldâs highest-capacity micro-compact defensive pistol. The Hellcat features either an 11+1 flush fit magazine or a 13+1 extended magazine depending on what you choose to carry. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Its definitely a nice little gun. When the trigger safety lever that is incorporated into the trigger is not engaged, it blocks the trigger from moving rearward. The Hellcat, besides being equipped with a trigger-lever safety, has a passive striker-block safety that is deactivated to allow the striker to move forward and strike a primer only if the trigger is pulled. It seems like the issue with the Hellcat is similar to the issue with the PM9. The thing that the P365 does really well for shooting is that while the grip is small, the actual trigger break is in the same place relative to the palm... as a G19. All testing was filmed with high-speed cameras to analyze potential problems. I thought the same thing. The purpose is to make the gun safer to carry with a loaded chamber. So Iâm really close to pulling the trigger!whats the man issues with a red eye hellcat,? :wacko: Again you're fabricating- this thread never mentioned Springfield's leftist politics until you just did. Suggest you watch PRP video on install, I could not have done install myself with out the video. No real issues to worry about. The Springfield Hellcat has proven a popular choice for concealed carry pistols since its release. https://www.deseret.com/1989/3/17/1...on-charges-of-taking-bribes-in-salvador-sales, Second Media Corp., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. Pull trigger correctly and follow instructions when dry firing. Power tilt telescope column too. The trigger on the Springfield Armory Hellcat is a pretty standard striker-fired trigger. Like we both mentioned, very little negative chatter about Hellcat issues. When ready to fire, a deliberate press of the trigger disengages the trigger safety and begins the rearward travel of the trigger assembly. LOVE THIS GUN! HKPro is so loyal they don't even have a general weapons forum. Jgault Sergeant of the Hide. Springfield Hellcat 9mm Subcompact Pistol Accuracy Results. Our sample originally tripped the gauge at a healthy 7.25 pounds with a certain amount of grittiness before the break and being trigger snobs, that didnât cut it. A forum community dedicated to SIG Sauer Pistols and SIG Sauer Rifles owners and enthusiasts. It has trigger safety (the lever protruding from the center of the trigger) which must be depressed fully to allow the trigger to be pulled and the gun to fire. The trigger really doesnât feel that good from a gun store counter perspective. The Hellcat, besides being equipped with a trigger-lever safety, has a passive striker-block safety that is deactivated to allow the striker to move forward and strike a primer only if the trigger is pulled. Enter the guys at Apex Tactical, who fortunately live ⦠The other features of the Hellcat put me over the top. The Hellcat has a very good trigger safety installed. Psgr seat manual only. For being such a small gun, the trigger on the XL is pretty darn good. The striker tip is meant to hit and stop at the primer, thus negating other parts slamming hard metal. It comes with a non-proprietary rail system that any manufacturer can make parts for. I just emailed two videos to them showing it failing to feed and they tested it with Federal HST JHP and it does feed that flawless as I tested myself. It is something you need to experience to fully appreciate, but be warnedâ¦once you do, you will not look at a micro pistol with a curved trigger the same way again. One of my favorite things about the gun is the same style texture that they use for the grip, located where your index finger should rest on the frame when youâre keeping that finger off the trigger. I didnât find it to be spectacular but also did not experience any real issues with it. Cannae Legion Day pack â Five Minute Find; Primary Arms SLx 1-6 Raptor FFP Review â Fastest range estimation ever? The complete Press Release from Apex Tactical regarding this can be read below: I wouldnt worry, they have these cars pretty well sorted by now. I have to unholster and holster often and feel better, even though I'm careful, with a little extra trigger safety but I am not thrilled with external safeties. Sigâs little 9mm has made a big splash in the market, and it changed what concealed carry looks like. Fore/aft and recline. These are great cars and I wish I had the opportunity to own one but I am very pleased with my Hellcat. Mean Bone. I had to do very little filing and now that "problem" is gone and the safety works fully. The striker issue has become silent as well because people actually read the manual and were told to stop dry firing the pistol non stop without snap caps. Apex says these components "significantly improve the feel of the trigger ⦠Here is a video on how I fixed the trigger âissueâ on the Springfield Armory Hellcat. (Photo/ Richard Macchia) Trigger stacking is defined as an increase in spring pressure the further a trigger is pulled to the rear. That trigger safety is one of the reasons I got the Hellcat over the 365. The striker issue has become silent as well because people actually read the manual and were told to stop dry firing the pistol non stop without snap caps. The flat faced Hellcat trigger allows the break to come while the trigger is well forward that of most curved triggers. The safety blade is doing exactly as intended. Not good! I have it now, and I'm carrying it in the same Alabama kydex pocket holster. I went from a 2016 Hellcat to a RE and it feels more aggressive which im sure is due to the 3.09âs I made sure to get when I ordered it. Like we both mentioned, very little negative chatter about Hellcat issues. Oddly enough I had this same problem with a g19 size Polymer 80 build not to long ago. Thing is a beast. Aug 26, 2020 160 284 48 Keller, Texas . Recoil really reminded me of shooting a 40sw 01-19-20, 21:22 #8. As a carry gun, however, the Hellcat blew me away. The sights on the Hellcat are, honestly, a little âmehâ after using them for a few months. Howe⦠I can appreciate letting the public know of failures of a new firearm, but it doesn't appear to be all that wide spread. The Hellcat is equipped with a trigger safety meaning that there is a small lever ahead of the actual trigger that must be actuated to allow the trigger to be depressed and the gun to fire. The trigger is sure safe enough, but I'll admit I'd like to see SA shave a hair off the dingus so people can shoot them with their fingernail. JavaScript is disabled. With that in mind, it it is great news to hear that Apex Tactical has introduced a NEW Action Enhancement Trigger to improve the Hellcatâs trigger pull, travel, and break. Check out both front seats. In the few videos I have seen, the Hellcat (terrible name) experiences the same tendency as the P365 which is the slide not always locking back on the last shot fired. The trigger issue made me feel uncomfortable. Feels almost like a different car, overall feels the same but better if that makes sense. PX Member. Again, a bit of light side pressure on the Hellcat trigger causes the trigger safety to not be depressable, while on Glocks and the mossberg that light side pressure isn't an issue- it still allows the trigger safety to function. Minuteman. So it's time for a Springfield Hellcat trigger job. With these small guns, it is very difficult to eliminate the effect of the shooter's grip not engaging the slide catch during firing. Took a 7# pull down to 4# pull and no more safety lockup so far. The concept is nice, but Iâm still not completely on board with that U-dot setup. Shooting the Hellcat: very similar to the P365. It has the Demon engine, the better driveshaft, the stronger differential case and very different axles. It comes with a flat-faced trigger with blade safety. G. gnx1234 ... 2020 Challenger Hellcat Redeye Wide Body - Octane red, 3.09's, black Laguna leather, red belts, sunroof, nav, perf spoiler, C/F suede package, brought home 7/17/2020 2016 Hellcat - A8, pitch black, black Laguna leather, black wheels, nav, ⦠He also needs to learn how to use a trigger. Well, it will be soon. The purpose is to make the gun safer to carry with a loaded chamber. Video worked for me. While testing/dry firing every once and a while the trigger wouldn’t move, obviously it turned out to be the tab (or whatever it’s called) in the Polymer 80 brand trigger. Most of us know we must depress the dingus for the trigger to work. The video was simply showing what I was trying to get across. You know, unlike when the P365 failures started to popped up all over the interwebs, this is the only place I can find that is discussing the failures of the Hellcat. The real difference is the way the trigger feels. Get the Redeye! The Hellcat version ships with the Apex Action Enhancement Trigger, Sear Spring, and Striker Spring. Yeah I need hand controls Iâm paralyzed from chest down and my whole spine is fused.. May be easy for you but Iâm trying to imagine the awesome throttle feel by hand! VerticalScope Inc., 111 Peter Street, Suite 901, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2H1, Canada. I learned a lot here as a 365 owner. Installation of the Apex Trigger . Is this a term yet? After 200 rounds I bought the Sig P365. The trigger reach is slightly reduced, and my petite girlfriend seems to appreciate it for her smaller hands. Recent Posts. The trigger includes a safety blade (like many other handguns) that must be depressed for the gun to be fired. Compared to a full-size duty gun, small pistols require far more work (and frustration) to extract top performance. Reactions: Jefe's Dope. Installation of the Apex Action Enhancement Trigger on the Springfield Hellcat is straightforward. I think personal experience on the range would trump these one off forced failures. When so many things about the Hellcat are above average it is almost disappointing to have an average trigger. That is a mouthful against that Hellcat that has nothing wrong with it. When properly installed, this drop-in trigger will: â Reduce trigger pull weight to 5.0 to 5.5 lbs after break-in period The only reason I state this is that we have a full family of Hemiâs and many before and no real issues with any of them. Also, pressure can be applied from various angles without binding the trigger safety, which was an apparent issue for some with the original Hellcat trigger. At this point the Hellcat is loaded. This is within factory specs for safe on duty/off duty carry. It has takeup, a wall, and then a slight bit of heavy creep before it breaks. Trigger very smooth but takeup will still be present, I feel comfortale carrying the gun now. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Even in a no stress situation when it would happen to me it took a few seconds to realize what was going on, in a full on stressful situation? After a few rounds with the Hellcat I started to get what I call the Glock .40 sting from the web of my hand down to the palm. Keep in mind this is a subcompact pistol. Interestingly enough many people on YouTube are modifying their trigger safety and making their gun potentially dangerous to themselves. Now it is much better. She has adopted the Hellcat as her gun now, so her opinion matters the most. The OSP variant model was only $30 more than a standard Hellcat. The Trigger Point. The Hellcat trigger pull weight as tested was 5.43 pounds. Oct 22, 2020 #4 I came to the same conclusion as you so I decided on either the hellcat or the p365. Iâve gotten approved but didnât show back up tonight to test fit myself getting in from my wheelchair.. 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