Different problems depending on the method and parameters, but none of them could produce a good result. Helicon Focus has three stacking methods, and two of them have two parameters that make a big difference to the look of the images. 't edit naming it just calls it file name of video and then 01 til x ) one thing is handy: subfolders checkbox for every video file. As to whether that matters or not depends on one's particular requirements of course. so you can convert first all and then go to stacking. For the second one I think the camera did just as well as Helicon in terms of details, and did significantly better in terms of colour and clarity. Way too much work anyway. [Edit. stacked one is 3455x2559 24 bit 5MB. It's ok, but it doesn't have a retouching facility as far as I recall. Running through them in Faststone I would be inclined to delete just the first one at the front. This is one advantage of doing the stacking yourself rather than having the camera do it - you have much more flexibility about the look of the image. (you can select focuspoints but can you select image by image? (Well, the areas that should be in focus, see next post.). sins i don't have Helicon, i have bin looking for a other app to cutdown mp4 in to photo's. if you use stacking for a example close by object and landscape scenery to create a all sharp front to back in focus "painting" handheld will do i think. I'll post what I've prepared anyway as others might be interested in it, and the second post will address your question about how good the in-camera selection of the desired in-focus range is. This is one advantage of doing the stacking yourself rather than having the camera do it - you have much more flexibility about the look of the image. I think that only affects the last image so that is the only one I would delete at the end. Having forgotten about stacking since some experiments I did almost a year ago, this thread nudged me into having another go at stacking. It must be handling the video frames differently, which means there must be some sort of post processing involved after all. You can choose the best shot that meets your photographic intention. I'll post what I've prepared anyway as others might be interested in it, and the second post will address your question about how good the in-camera selection of the desired in-focus range is. Post Focus … Now you can easily do it with the Post Focus function on dedicated LUMIX cameras. These look a lot more alike to the g80 one's. What's the best camera for shooting landscapes? I'm sure that perfectionists will look closely and disapprove of some of the stacking imperfections that I haven't dealt with properly, but this exercise turned out to be more productive and less problematic than I was expecting based on my previous experiments. you can choose all images to blend or be in controle by choosing out of the seperate images in camera. It will be available on upcoming new models as well. That is the question I'm working on at the moment, going through some 60mm examples from the past couple of days. In case you (or other readers) haven't tried it I'll write about it in the next couple of posts. You can always get the best in-focus shots. Post Focus function has been developed based on Panasonic 4K technology. I have also been using an Olympus 60mm macro with (once or twice) a Raynox 150. I dragged them into Helicon Focus, which automatically separated out the individual frames. It is made possible by Panasonic high-speed, high-precision DFD (Depth From Defocus) auto focus technology. Focus Stacking Naast de Post Focus functie gaat Panasonic op het gebied van scherpstelling nog een stap verder, met Focus Stacking krijg je namelijk de mogelijkheid gemakkelijk meerdere focuspunten in dezelfde foto te combineren. I'll need to revisit the "fails" from yesterday to see if cloning will make some of them usable after all, including what I was trying to achieve with the red flower one I posted.). Post-focus captures, at 30 fps, are also a lot faster to execute. . The focus is centred rather narrowly around the glass paperweight. It can also let you sidestep some problems with halos and other problems I've been encountering in quite a lot of the scenes I've been working on. In this buying guide we've rounded-up several great cameras for shooting landscapes, and recommended the best. So i did nothing with the files. knowledge is adictive, every time i get some i want more.....-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------. Helicon extracts 30 JPEGs from this. (The second green box, just up and to the right of the first one. ), Nickhttp://www.flickr.com/photos/gardenersassistant/collections/GardenersAssistant Photography Videos - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmBgEwRDfiQMYTPORSzDxvwhttps://www.talkphotography.co.uk/threads/bridge-mft-achromats-dslr-primes-a-journey-of-exploration.531050/. The 60mm macro has proved difficult to handle with both methods. So, if load video in pc, run it through free video to jpeg, mark the wrong one's, go back to your g80 select on the lcd the good one's by using the pc screen and selection to select in g80 before hit merge.. The only solution in such cases is cloning, which may or may not be practical, or using fewer frames so the rear surface is not in focus, which is what I did with the red flower. 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In this buying guide we’ve rounded up all the current interchangeable lens cameras costing over $2500 and recommended the best. To find out more about the cookies we use or how to change your settings, please see our Cookie Policy. It is made possible by Panasonic high-speed, high-precision DFD (Depth From Defocus) auto focus technology. The in-focus range runs from the front of the thing with buttons to the glass paperweight behind the black and gold tin. Whichever method I used, and whichever parameters, there were problems. The truth about the focus stacking feature of the EM-1 ii, killer combo: MC-20+Pixco16mm tube+60mm OLY Macro+Raynox505, Robin Wong’s Latest Video on Cluster Area AF, M43 flexibility for Macro photography with Oly 60mm F2.8, extension tubes, raynox M-250 and MC-20 TC, An Investigation of E-M1 Focus Bracketing. At the back, the in-focus range doesn't run right out to the furthest flowers and I found it a bit difficult to work out where the turn back to the middle was. out of 28 frames. OK. Have you ever imagined that you can set sharp focus on the target subject after you shot the images. I don't think it is that straightforward. work around 1: save from postfocus video seperate jpegs incamera and use those extern in a stacking application. This may not matter if the surfaces are fairly close together but as the distance between them increases so does the halo. Dreaming of a somewhat better telephoto zoom. One reason I bought the G80 was for its focus bracketing function. For the best results you need to delete the first few frames and the last few frames. Maybe i did confused you because did post proces the g80 jpeg which came out the stacking of the video's images if that's what your referring of (this came out my archieve of complete images, it isn't a new processed one. But the this-link is only the video to jpeg converter and it is strait forward: hit "every frame" and you get a fast and easy row of jpegs: (can. For example, here is a version of that image (from the same post-focus capture) using 211 out of the 225 frames, the whole front to back sweep. The ones to use are the front to back sweep. I'll outline the process in this post and discuss the results/flexibility in the following post. In the G80 this seemingly hunts even less than the already speedy GH4, with the lock-in final focus that much more refined than before. The Tamron 17-70 F2.8 Di III-A VC RXD is a compact general-purpose lens for Sony's APS-C, E-mount mirrorless cameras. Given the focus areas I selected I think this is rather disappointing. So how does it perform? Our posts crossed. Dans ce post, je voulais vous montrer le fonctionnement du post focus et du focus stacking de mon petit Lumix G80. Presumably the in-camera stacking would attempt this same stack, using the whole front to back sweep. I'm afraid Helicon doesn't provide any way of exporting the individual frames. Yes i agree, the in camera selection by tapping a amount green boxes is not ideal. ;-), Re: second attempt, maybe got the wrong file or methode. You can zoom in the picture even see subtle nuances and set the focus precisely, You can adjust the focus point on touch monitor as you like. I then tried all three methods, with a little (but not much) fiddling with different parameter values. But have you tried in-camera range-merging? So there is indeed significant flexibility about how much is in focus front to back. ok, so g80 is selecting this automaticly and throw away those useless ones i think. It could make the camera a That is the way my thoughts are going. In addition #5 and #10 had some retouching in Helicon Focus to try to remove halos and other edge problems. In terms of capturing the images the combination I have found easiest, fastest and most reliable is post-focus with the 45-175 with/without a close-up lens as appropriate, with focus bracketing using the 45-175 next best. The one with the flowers is probably not 100 % alignable because of small movement of the seperate flowers. This is what I got from the in-camera process using the selection points shown in the previous post. But the full resolution focus bracketing is something i still need to practise. Because the results vary so much in what is good and bad about them it is difficult to pick a definitively "best" version (and I might not have found good parameter values to use anyway). These examples were captured using post-focus with the 45-175 and Canon 500D apart from the last one, which used the Raynox 150. (As we'll see in the following post, the thing with buttons that I wanted in focus isn't actually in focus even though I'm pointing at it, but let's continue with looking at the process for now. owh i found those ooc jpegs, those are effected by engine setups like vivid and such. With post-focus it is very straightforward - frame the shot and shoot. For the examples where the in-camera stack was bad I found that I could get a good result using the same post-focus video that the camera used but processing it in Helicon Focus. ), Press Fn2 to fix the second selection area. The Panasonic Lumix DMC-G85/G80 (DMC-G81 in Germany) is a DSLR-styled mirrorless camera announced on September 19, 2016. If you believe there are incorrect tags, please send us this post using our, second attempt, maybe got the wrong file or methode. Afla cele mai noi oferte si promotii pentru o gama larga de produse! Interesting to investigate what/how much difference that makes. Post Focus function has been developed based on Panasonic 4K technology. Optional functions for more precise focus setting: Focus Peaking Highlighting the areas that are sharp / in-focus. (don't remember which i got) should be able to stack the separated images i believe) can do a better job. Our website uses cookies and similar tools to improve its performance and enhance your user experience and by continuing to use this website without changing your settings, you consent to their use. Do you really use the buttons on your 12-100 lens? So, if load video in pc, run it through free video to jpeg, mark the wrong one's, go back to your g80 select on the lcd the good one's by using the pc screen and selection to select in g80 before hit merge.. (i avoid degeneration by free mp4 to jpeg convertion and the combinezp software), in this way i think i can use the specialistic software in the g80 to stack and still be able i, ( by the way combinezp crasht on that bigger stacking command when i did do all types., probably a memory issue. Cumpara Panasonic Lumix DMC-G80 Aparat Foto Mirrorless 16MP MFT Body, online de pe F64.ro sau direct din Showroom-ul nostru. We look at what the camera offers and who it might make sense for. It’ll also get you into Post Focus mode, the G80’s other party trick. I just looked at 2017-07-02_170624.MPG, for which you have provided your extracted JPEGs. The GFX 100S fits most of the capabilities of the GFX 100 into a smaller and more affordable body. ), I worked with the MP4 files for your two examples (2017-07-02_170733 and 2017-07-02_120835, hope these are the correct ones.). But the full resolution focus bracketing is something i still need to practise. You can pull different perspectives out of an image depending on the part you want to be in focus. Presumably the in-camera stacking would attempt this same stack, using the whole front to back sweep. This issue can arise whenever you have two surfaces that you want both in focus, where one the front one has an edge that goes across the rear surface. ), 2) set up a totally stationary test object(s) and tripod (delaytimer possible in postfocus video to avoid pressure movement/blur?). So the in-camera focus stacking definitely has less flexibility about defining the in-focus range compared to external stacking. There is a free trial though. (just throw away those you did in helicon.). During Post Focus playback, the Lumix G80 / G85 lets you enter the Focus Stacking mode which then offers Range or Auto Merging options. (I've moved to one at the front of the range that I want. Press the Menu/set button to get to the Merge dialog box. The thing with the buttons still isn't in focus. 3) restack your image list out of my converted video to see if stacking improves. I have been using post-focus and focus bracketing to gather images to stack. Press Up Arrow to get to the focus stacking screen. Are Olympus cameras going to start going out of stock? The G80 2.5T gets a 2.5-litre four-cylinder turbocharged petrol engine making 224kW and 422Nm, which sits it not that far behind the old 3.8-litre NA V6. @Nick how big are your extractions in Helicon? And in these cases there is no image which has the halo area in focus so you can't cure it by copying from a particular frame that has that area in focus. 49 delen van een scherm worden gedetecteerd om scherp te stellen … 49 areas of a frame to set focus at different focus points â near to far. i found this (i tried the hole package but removed it after a quick look. I got mixed results with in-camera focus stacking when I tried it, varying from ok to unusable (see https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58821545). It is nice, but it isn't the image I wanted to create, so from that point of view that is a "fail" in terms of what I could achieve. and stationary light. If i look at the seperated jpegs by that free tool they are " normal" sharp non procest. . So in think because of the graduated out of focus action on a edge of a object it fails to refocus on a new thing just after this point of drop off and this causes a planelayer of non sharp pixels between the two sharp in focused area's which by stacking causes halo. If i look at the seperated jpegs by that free tool they are " normal" sharp non procest. All content, design, and layout are Copyright © 1998 - 2021 Digital Photography Review All Rights Reserved. Potete scaricare le foto di test in formato originale da questo link. Have a look at https://www.raymond.cc/blog/extract-video-frames-to-images-using-vlc-media-player/, I think I used Virtual Dub before I started using Helicon Focus. For example, here is a version of that image (from the same post-focus capture) using 211 out of the 225 frames, the whole front to back sweep. I normally go on to adjust the images, for example in Lightroom, but in this case I produced these JPEGs directly from Helicon Focus. This was better, but there was no focus area I could choose which had the front of the thing with the buttons in focus but left the glass item in front of it still out of focus. Focus bracketing may be a better starting point as that presents you with JPEGs or raw files. Colour and clarity can of course be adjusted in post processing, but it's curious that Helicon was different in this respect. a big plus is every ripped jpeg is 3328x2496 24bit just 1,23Mbit. i did, a very great result of the red flower composition by the way. APN: G80 (PL8-18 P20 P12-35 P14-140 P100-300) Nikon D750 (N24 N18-35 N50 N85 T90M N24-120 T70-300 N28-300) Dépt. In our latest buying guide we've selected some cameras that might be a bit older but still offer a lot of bang for the buck. In the past couple of days I have tried stacking from post-focus and from focus bracketing. Sony's FE 35mm F1.4 GM is an impressively sharp and long-awaited pro-level 35mm optic for full-frame Sony E-mount cameras. Whichever method I used, and whichever parameters, there were problems. 150-400 mm f4.5 does birding in cold weather. (That link has detailed instructions for using VLC but I can't get the VLC frame extraction to work properly with one of my post-focus MP4 files.). isn't in my toolbox jet, but for the sake of understanding how it works a "manual setup" focus bracketing is something fun to try out. Fujifilm's X-E4 is the most compact X-mount camera Fujifilm has yet produced, but that doesn't make it any less competitive. It takes a 4K sequence of differently focused frames, so you can pick the one that works best. With post-focus it is very straightforward - frame the shot and shoot. I demonstrated that in this post: https://www.dpreview.com/forums/post/58893592. isn't in my toolbox jet, but for the sake of understanding how it works a "manual setup" focus bracketing is something fun to try out. One reason I bought the G80 was for its focus bracketing function. Burst images in 4K resolution (3840 x 2160 pixel) are shot at 30 fps while detecting max. But focus stacking does seem to be good enough for most subject matters. (i think that a stackingprogram ONLY takes the total in focus sections of a image and puzzles this in one piece but hmm, something got wrong. : now proceed to safe button in stead of choosing the ones out of a row of types: I am not convinced yet that ripping a video in to jpegs and run it trough combine does a better job then incamera. The best step size may be different for different apertures. if you use stacking for a example close by object and landscape scenery to create a all sharp front to back in focus "painting" handheld will do i think. This is what I got when I selected the widest in-focus range that I could. In case you (or other readers) haven't tried it I'll write about it in the next couple of posts. If you get the capture right then focus bracketing may produce better results, but I don't have a 5x enlarged view You can zoom in the picture even see subtle nuances and set the focus precisely, Focus adjustment You can adjust the focus point on touch monitor as you like. La fonction « Post Focus » a été développée à partir de la technologie 4K de Panasonic. freeware, and it looks very simple in interface and use. Press Menu/Set button on "Yes". Panasonic Lumix G80 + 14-140mm f/3.5-5.6 II Asph Lumix G Vario Power OIS Puissant Nero € 799,00 PANASONIC Lumix DMC-G80 - Solo Corpo - 2 Anni Di Garanzia € 826,90 Panasonic Lumix DMC-G80HAEGK DSLM Macchina Fotografica, Sensore MOS 16MP, Modalità 4K, Sistema Dual Image Stabilizer a 5 assi, Post Focus, Focus Stacking, Obiettivo 14-140 mm Incluso, Nero € 837,50 This has been around on other Panasonic cameras for a while, but Read our review to find out. It should be because Helicon software which does the stacking is aspecialy made for manual controled and automatic stacking. The G80 has buttons though, so that, for example, changing between AF and manual focus is easier on the G80. And choose the same images out of my extracted jpegs? But have you tried in-camera range-merging? I think the in-camera stacking did very well with the second of your examples, not quite so well with the first. 49 areas of a frame to set focus at different focus points – near to far. Yes, which is what surprised me about the mess it made with the thin strands. 6) something will emerge along the way.... (And again you loured me in to a quest... LOL), Thanks. All were hand-held using natural light. Then I moved the first area one more position over to the right. What software are you thinking of using for the stacking? Here is another version where I moved the first selection area over to the right. - thoroug alignment command ( runs a wile after command (you see a comparing frame action. And It has let me tackle some subjects that haven't worked very well with single shots, or which didn't (and in some cases couldn't) work at all with single shots. That's one of the reasons i didn't practise/tested this kind. De technologie van de Post Focus-functie, is ontwikkeld op basis van de 4K-technologie van Panasonic. Burst-beelden in 4K-resolutie (3840 x 2160 pixels) zijn opgenomen met 30 fps terwijl max. 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